Comments on: The Box Conundrum… http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum Rants, Raves, Opinions, Commentary & Assorted Bullshit... Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:52:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.1 by: Michael Humphreys http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-146 Wed, 17 May 2006 19:02:05 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-146 Great article Tony. I think business philosopher Brian Tracy said it best, when he said something like, "People are basically lazy, self-centered, and want the easiest solutions. That's neither good nor bad, it's just human nature". How many people start an off-line business and fail because they didn't study the fundamentals first? About 80-90%. How many people start an on-line business and fail because they don't bother to study the fundamentals of internet marketing and copywriting. I'm sure it's a lot higher than off-line businesses. In my opinion, the people willing to take the time to learn the fundamentals of whatever business, hobby, or sport they want to excel at, position themselves to have the best chance to succeed. Keep up the great work! Michael Humphreys Great article Tony.

I think business philosopher Brian Tracy said it best, when he said something like, “People are basically lazy, self-centered, and want the easiest solutions. That’s neither good nor bad, it’s just human nature”.

How many people start an off-line business and fail because they didn’t study the fundamentals first? About 80-90%.

How many people start an on-line business and fail because they don’t bother to study the fundamentals of internet marketing and copywriting. I’m sure it’s a lot higher than off-line businesses.

In my opinion, the people willing to take the time to learn the fundamentals of whatever business, hobby, or sport they want to excel at, position themselves to have the best chance to succeed.

Keep up the great work!

Michael Humphreys

]]> by: Robert Hutton PhD http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-51 Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:31:30 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-51 Great Post on the basics. However,there is another problem that figures into this. I myself have been a victim and have struggled at times. people tend to get "overloaded". There are so many "opportunities" and great deals out there that after a while the confusion starts to set in. You begin to try and do too many projects at the same time. Unfortunalely it overwhelms you and you end up getting very little finished. DO 1 project and stick with it until you have it up and running. Tweak it, coddle it and then go to the next project. Eventually, with work, you will buils a more solid foundation. Great Post on the basics. However,there is another problem that figures into this. I myself have been a victim and have struggled at times. people tend to get “overloaded”. There are so many “opportunities” and great deals out there that after a while the confusion starts to set in. You begin to try and do too many projects at the same time.
Unfortunalely it overwhelms you and you end up getting very little finished. DO 1 project and stick with it until you have it up and running. Tweak it, coddle it and then go to the next project. Eventually, with work, you will buils a more solid foundation.

]]> by: MIKEM33 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-41 Thu, 13 Apr 2006 20:03:02 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-41 What are the "basics"? And where does one find them? Regards, Michael ____________________________________________________________ Response From: The Angry Marketer Mike... The "basics" are any fundamentals that are necessary to know within whatever given field, job, expertise, niche, hobby, sport, etc... each will have different "basics" and different amounts of "need" to learn them... You can't play baseball unless you learn the rules, know how to use a glove, can use a bat and know which direction to run when you get a hit... You can't build a skyscraper unless you understand the laws of architecture, construction, physics, engineering, etc... Well, maybe you could, but 99% of the time it would be sheer disaster... Hope this helps... Tony Blake The Angry Marketer What are the “basics”? And where does one find them?

Regards,
Michael
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Response From: The Angry Marketer

Mike…

The “basics” are any fundamentals that are necessary to know within whatever given field, job, expertise, niche, hobby, sport, etc… each will have different “basics” and different amounts of “need” to learn them…

You can’t play baseball unless you learn the rules, know how to use a glove, can use a bat and know which direction to run when you get a hit…

You can’t build a skyscraper unless you understand the laws of architecture, construction, physics, engineering, etc…

Well, maybe you could, but 99% of the time it would be sheer disaster…

Hope this helps…

Tony Blake
The Angry Marketer

]]> by: Alan Allard http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-39 Mon, 10 Apr 2006 17:51:48 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-39 Tony, What you are driving home is a missing element in why so many fail in their efforts to model another person's success...they are really wanting to get the results without modeling the beliefs and behaviors that created the results in the first place. I am a Coach who specializes in turning failing relationships and failing businesses around. I do not want a client who does not understand what you are teaching, because any supposed gains we make early on will surely collapse, just as you say, due to a poor foundation. Too many human beings want what they want, NOW, and they want it to be totally EASY and they want it to be FREE...and like you, I say "screw them." Something, like a relationship with a significant other, can become easy and enjoyable, but after a foundation is laid, after skill-sets are learned and built in. Phenomenal sales skills can be had, but the basic skills of building and maintaining rapport, calibrating along the way, and effectively persuading must be in place first. And then the most fundamental basic, and that might be that of really caring about the person you are seeking to influence, and being willing to deeply care about what they desire and value...these are fundamental and foundational matters that sykyscrapers can be built upon. I hope more people are listening to you. Thanks for the timely reminder...it is worth its weight in gold! My best, Alan Allard www.geniusdynamics.com Tony,

What you are driving home is a missing element in why so many fail in their efforts to model another person’s success…they are really wanting to get the results without modeling the beliefs and behaviors that created the results in the first place.

I am a Coach who specializes in turning failing relationships and failing businesses around. I do not want a client who does not understand what you are teaching, because any supposed gains we make early on will surely collapse, just as you say, due to a poor foundation. Too many human beings want what they want, NOW, and they want it to be totally EASY and they want it to be FREE…and like you, I say “screw them.”

Something, like a relationship with a significant other, can become easy and enjoyable, but after a foundation is laid, after skill-sets are learned and built in. Phenomenal sales skills can be had, but the basic skills of building and maintaining rapport, calibrating along the way, and effectively persuading must be in place first. And then the most fundamental basic, and that might be that of really caring about the person you are seeking to influence, and being willing to deeply care about what they desire and value…these are fundamental and foundational matters that sykyscrapers can be built upon.

I hope more people are listening to you. Thanks for the timely reminder…it is worth its weight in gold!

My best,

Alan Allard
www.geniusdynamics.com

]]> by: Mike http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-38 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 01:03:47 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-38 Great post ! There's way too many people wanting to circumvent the educational process and/or not pay their due diligence. Without learning on the way up, they would not be able to stay on top should they ever get there. It's not the destination that makes you happy, it's the journey. Great post ! There’s way too many people wanting to circumvent the educational process and/or not pay their due diligence.

Without learning on the way up, they would not be able to stay on top should they ever get there.

It’s not the destination that makes you happy, it’s the journey.

]]> by: Pat Graham-Block http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-37 Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:02:46 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-37 Interesting post. I wonder how much this person had been influenced by the endless sales pages by internet marketing gurus that tout "buy my ebook and in 7 days, you'll be rich like me" only to find out that is not exactly the case and now, wanting to find the last missing piece of information that "will surely pull it all together" for him. Not making excuses for this person, and yet, something to ponder nonetheless. Pat Interesting post. I wonder how much this person had been influenced by the endless sales pages by internet marketing gurus that tout “buy my ebook and in 7 days, you’ll be rich like me” only to find out that is not exactly the case and now, wanting to find the last missing piece of information that “will surely pull it all together” for him.

Not making excuses for this person, and yet, something to ponder nonetheless.

Pat

]]> by: The Crooked Wisdom Guy http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-36 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:54:47 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-36 Excellent article Tony! I've been guilty of this mindset myself in the past so I know how costly it can be. Thanks for the reminder. P.S. Love your blog and your board. They're two of my favorite stomping grounds. Excellent article Tony! I’ve been guilty of this mindset myself in the past so I know how costly it can be. Thanks for the reminder.

P.S. Love your blog and your board. They’re two of my favorite stomping grounds.

]]> by: jayjennings.com » Blog Archive » Tony’s Boxing Lesson http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-35 Thu, 06 Apr 2006 20:24:36 +0000 http://angrymarketer.com/rants/the-box-conundrum#comment-35 [...] Especially good for newbies, but even a good lesson for everyone else, Tony Blake’s latest blog entry about thinking inside — and outside — the box is the real deal. It should be mandatory reading for anyone thinking about getting into the marketing biz, or who are in it, but floundering around. Or even anyone who wants a new look at an old idea. [...] […] Especially good for newbies, but even a good lesson for everyone else, Tony Blake’s latest blog entry about thinking inside — and outside — the box is the real deal. It should be mandatory reading for anyone thinking about getting into the marketing biz, or who are in it, but floundering around. Or even anyone who wants a new look at an old idea. […]

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